Comments on: The Serenity Prayer as an Agile Mindset http://www.bigvisible.com/bbozzuto/the-serenity-prayer-as-an-agile-mindset/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:28:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bbozzuto http://www.bigvisible.com/bbozzuto/the-serenity-prayer-as-an-agile-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-13647 bbozzuto Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:19:27 +0000 http://www.bigvisible.com/?p=156#comment-13647 Jay, I like your analogy between a factory verse a research laboratory. It certainly cuts to the heart of the challenges of efficiency verse effectiveness. However, that analogy is perhaps itself a little limited, because there are things we do that should be like a factory. A team should have sufficient discipline to model consistently, code to standards, and use CI to run frequent builds. I think this is one big challenge I've found, as some people have a hard time distinguishing where they should be flexible and where they should have discipline. Jay, I like your analogy between a factory verse a research laboratory. It certainly cuts to the heart of the challenges of efficiency verse effectiveness. However, that analogy is perhaps itself a little limited, because there are things we do that should be like a factory. A team should have sufficient discipline to model consistently, code to standards, and use CI to run frequent builds. I think this is one big challenge I’ve found, as some people have a hard time distinguishing where they should be flexible and where they should have discipline.

]]> By: Jay Conne http://www.bigvisible.com/bbozzuto/the-serenity-prayer-as-an-agile-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-13639 Jay Conne Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:23:06 +0000 http://www.bigvisible.com/?p=156#comment-13639 Brian - nicely put. As I wrote in a comment on a post by Mike Dwyer, I find the metaphor of R&D vs manufacturing resonates well with my clients. In R&D, you are in discovery mode where it's always safe to say, "I don't know." and "I tried this, it didn't work, and here's what I learned." Philosophically speaking, in a very practical way... If we accept that there's effectively infinite to know and we learn parts by trying things, we need to discover enough to achieve the goal of the moment. That as good as it gets and is sufficient. Thanks for your post. Jay Brian – nicely put. As I wrote in a comment on a post by Mike Dwyer, I find the metaphor of R&D vs manufacturing resonates well with my clients. In R&D, you are in discovery mode where it’s always safe to say, “I don’t know.” and “I tried this, it didn’t work, and here’s what I learned.”

Philosophically speaking, in a very practical way…
If we accept that there’s effectively infinite to know and we learn parts by trying things, we need to discover enough to achieve the goal of the moment. That as good as it gets and is sufficient. Thanks for your post.

Jay

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